Tuesday, September 06, 2005

Gang of Six stuff

So Heisman Pundit and CFR ate their crow, somewhat begrudgingly, over Boise State's annihilation at the hands of UGA. HP says he's wrong for the right reasons, and that the scheme should still work.

I have yet to see any discussion of why the Louisville offense - part of that vaunted six - failed to overwhelm the meager University of Kentucky defense (which as we all know is a bottom feeder in the SEC).

And of course, with the LSU - ASU game move, more discussion elsewhere on his blog of the SEC scheduling cream puff non conference games. Yada yada yada.

[Edit: Oh, and HP is sure digging himself a deep hole by trying to pass off a large part of BSU's ineffectiveness on Zabransky's poor passing, yet failing to do the same for Brandon Cox. Read: when it comes to the SEC defense, it's poor opponent play that allows them to succeed. When it's an ACC defense shutting down an SEC opponent, it's good D. Cobbie, even you've got to admit that Cox's throws were HORRIBLE. Into double - and triple - coverage a couple times. That said, GT did play extremely well.]

[Edit 2: Forgot to link to CFR's Mea Culpa. Seems to be much more accepting of this outcome than HP.]


At 9/06/2005 08:16:00 AM, Blogger JCCobb said...

I think the only difference between the BSU game and the Auburn game is that Zabransky is a good quarterback that freaked out in an environment he's never played in before, and Cox is just not a very good quarterback, I agree, GT played above average defense, shut down the run, ontop of the poor passing, and never gave Cox a rest, absolutely relentless blitzing, however he just didn't look comfortable out there. That's why I love watching GT play, Tunuto, the D coordinator calls blitz, blitz, and then blitz.

At 9/06/2005 08:44:00 AM, Anonymous Devaskar said...

Anyone who watched the Georgia game knows that it wasn't just the Zabransky meltdown that cost them to lose. Their whole team got anihilated. On Georgia's first touchdown, I believe, their receiver left their whole secondary in the dust. A couple drives later, same thing, except Shockley, being as inaccurate as he is, missed him. Dawgs were swarming to the ball all game long whenever a skill Bronco had it in space.

Zabransky was awful but even without his meltdown, Georgia still would've won rather easily. It was perfectly obvious that Boise State isn't anywhere near as good as the elite programs in the nation and that they have a long way to go if they want to get there.

They're an outstanding WAC team, nothing more.

At 9/06/2005 09:41:00 AM, Blogger JCCobb said...

"It was perfectly obvious that Boise State isn't anywhere near as good as the elite programs in the nation and that they have a long way to go if they want to get there...They're an outstanding WAC team, nothing more.

Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely not on the HP bandwagon, but to write off Boise State because they went into Georgia and laid an egg I think is a little pre-mature. Lets give these guys some credit, they are trying to build a top 25 program that can compete against teams that have everything they do, x2. Yeah, they just got their ass handed to them by Georgia, there is no denying that, but wrapping up their entire team and program by one game (first one of the year) at Georgia when no one on this team has ever stepped into a stadium or played a team like this is a little harsh IMO.

Send Georgia to Boise State in November, or any other major program. Fact of the matter is, BSU is trying, and I give them credit for scheduling the game, notice Georgia is not planning on returning to Boise. Give this team a couple home and homes with the upper echelon of other conferences and then place judgment. Will BSU contend for the national title, probably not, even if they win that game and run the table, if there were two other BCS conference schools undefeated, BSU would be on the outside looking in. I think they're a great team that would be very competitive in every conference that had a very bad night.

But now that I’m defending them, they’ll probably lose two more games :)

At 9/06/2005 02:44:00 PM, Anonymous Devaskar said...

I don't know how much of the game you saw but in the first half, the Boise players were completely outmanned. It was evident their atheticism just doesn't stakc up with Georgia's.

I'm not intending to criticize Boise and I applaud them for scheduling this game. It's just that they are what they are, which is a very good WAC team and not much more. I wasn't overly impressed with them last season, despite their undefeated regular season record, largely because their defense was pretty bad. It's tough for me to believe a team out of a conference like the WAC can legitimately play with the powers when their defense doesn't even do that well within their conference.

I just don't haven't ever seen Boise State as a truly special lower conference team. I thought Utah was last season. I don't see it with Boise.

At 9/07/2005 09:01:00 AM, Blogger JCCobb said...

Fair Enough, Unfortunately I only saw the second half of the game as i raced home from UW/Air Force, when most of the carnage had already occurred. There is no denying that Boise State's defense isn't a top 15, which also is why their philosophy has always been to outscore, so when your QB craps the bed, you're gonna get spanked, and spanked hard. I think that brings up the arguements that were going on over at HP and elsewhere, and exists in all major sports, does the top defense wag the offense tail or vice versa. Did you guys watch the BGU Wisconsin game? I think the Bowling Green Boise State game should be a great matchup....Zabransky shoudl have it figured out by then...my early O/U is 72 for the game.

Which reminds me, what great scheduling for CFB this weekend. ND Michigan at 9am, I can watch it all, go to UW/Cal at noon, then be back in time to watch OSUandTexas slug it out. Is it possible for both teams to lose? I hate them both.

Although September 24th is aligning itself to be the best weekend in CFB possibly this year.

current line up:
#3Michigan at Wisconsin
#8Iowa at #4Ohio State
#6Tennessee at #5LSU (will they play there Rohan)
#17GT at #7 VaTech
#19Boston College at #35 Clemson
#20Notre Dame at Washington (obviously the hometown bias for this matchup, but the tyronne coaching story is still interesting)
#1USC at Oregon

At 9/07/2005 10:40:00 AM, Blogger JCCobb said...

weird....posted once and then it wasn't showing up, so i reposted and now my old post showed up...you can delete my second post if you'd like Rohan.

At 9/07/2005 11:44:00 AM, Blogger Publius said...

Yeah, that happens.

That 24th weekend looks ridiculous. LSU-Tennessee is at Tiger Stadium, and is at night, confirmed by an LSU fan's email response from Skip Bertman, our AD. So take that for what it's worth.

PS - I'll be sure to take pics in Tempe this weekend!

At 9/07/2005 12:22:00 PM, Blogger JCCobb said...

make sure you take some of the game too, and not just what you run into on mill ave.

Two Recommendations. Go to "the library" nice bar on mill ave...and when i mean nice, i'm not talking about the decor.

after the game go to, I want to say Dos Gringos, but can't remember for sure its name but outdoor mexican bar on campus about 3 blocks from the stadium.

At 9/08/2005 02:27:00 AM, Anonymous devaskar said...

It's college football weekends like the next two that make me somewhat regret having the job I have.

If I'm lucky, maybe I can watch Michigan-Notre Dame in the truck and catch the last three quarters of Texas-Ohio State from my hotel room.

At 9/08/2005 07:37:00 AM, Blogger Publius said...

I remembered your rec on the library bar from the past, I'm definitely heading there.

(FYI, my roommate is a broadcast associate for Fox Sports so he travels with an NFL crew to a different game every week - also, if you know anyone in Seattle who wants to make a couple bucks running errands and doing random stuff for Fox for the Hawks-Falcons game in a couple weeks, let him know. I believe they'd have passes to get out on the field, but not certain.)

At 9/08/2005 07:59:00 AM, Blogger JCCobb said...

What is the time commitment, is this all errands on Sunday?


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